9-year-old pleads guilty in Bremerton school shooting

[gloria]

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Cochran’s nephew said he took the handgun to school for protection from some “bigger” kids who had threatened to beat him up.

The 9-year-old said that about a week before he brought the gun to school, he and a friend were “jumped” by some other boys. All the participants were suspended, Makus said.

The boy said his teacher and the principal did not believe his version of what happened.

“They said I was crying wolf,” he said.

After the suspension, the boys who had jumped him threatened him again, he said.

http://www.thenewstribune.com/2012/03/08/2058983/uncle-of-boy-who-shot-student.html#storylink=cpy

9-year-old pleads guilty in Bremerton school shooting

http://today.seattletimes.com/2012/03/9-year-old-pleads-guilty-in-bremerton-school-shooting/


Bullying should be taking seriously, a child reports bullying and they say he is crying wolf?

Giving a 9 year old a criminal record is not going to help him one bit. There was common sense on the therapy approach and probation. you can do that without giving him a criminal record. Honestely what's wrong with america that gives a criminal record to a 9 year old.

[Bryan]

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What makes you think that years from now someone is going to use this juvenile charge against him to keep from a decent life? With bargins like that, I think he can have them sealed for life. Seriously folks, I think the only ones who should be gone after is the mother and her so-called mate. I would also go after the school for allowing those boys to bully the kid who brought the gun to school. Would it had been better for him if he had brought a knife or worked out so he concentrate on beating up the lead bully? Indeed, would the little girl still been hurt if the principal took that boy seriously?

Those bullies should also be sued to while we are at it, for they made the boy have to pack the gun in his backpack. Maybe they should also pay for their classmate's surgeries as well.

Then the school principal should get sued into pauperhood and balckballed from their dead-end job. If they had only punished the bullies with suspension, the little lady would not been shot and almost killed. What then, he be sued by the bulles for falsely accusing them? Everybody suing everybody else. It is the American way.

Let us just assume that it would be wiped clean once the boy turns 18 or 21. It is a juvenile conviction for crying out loud! To use the sarcasm, it is a whole lot different than Arizona, where another nine year old boy was never given that option. Only "ruined for life" was their option, an aftereffect for a state that hates Hispanics as exemplified by the banning of their history and the law that makes them have to prove to the cops that they are legal to live there. At least Washington has more common sense.

Now let's make sure that it stays that way and stop all who dare to think otherwise.

[Bryan]

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That is keep the politicians from making it harder to live for all kids by making a mockery of the juvenile system for the sake of the present system working that way it supposed to.

[gloria]

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What Happens in Juvenile Court, Doesn't Always Stay in Juvenile Court - The Myths and Realities about Juvenile Records and Expungements

Contrary to popular belief, what happens in juvenile court, doesn't always stay in juvenile court. A juvenile record can follow a person for the rest of their lives. This can include the record of arrest, fingerprints, the record of adjudication and disposition, and DNA profiles.


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But I do agree with you in that they should go after the adults (the mother and the so called mate as you call him lol) who made possible that child got the gun.

Sorry Bryan but USA is the only country in the world who would prosecute and give a criminal record to a 9 year old. ok, wait a moment, Somalia, india, iran and those other countries where human rights are non existent.

Let's just hope his record is expunged after the 12 months probation time.

[Bryan]

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From my knowledge only a handful of US States do not seal a juvenile record. Those that make them stick and act like they are adult charges better have a nice explaination why they do not.

It would make a good case study for a legal scholar to study the effects of juvenile convictions and the efforts to stop them being used against a person years later. It would make a good academic read.

Since when had we as a nation made it impossible to seal juvenile records or make it such a way that any future employer or citizen or goverment critter uses it to discriminate, ostracize or hurt another person faces criminal and/or civil penalties. We as a nation are supposed to be a free nation. We are supposed to be forgiving of youthful indiscretions. What law made it not that way? I like to know so I can find the person who passed it and protest on his or her front lawn. Whoever passed these laws should be the oness bullied, pilloried, boycotted, run out of town on a rail. Show me any examples of people who years later cannot have a life because of something that they did at nine or ten or seventeen. I like to know, so we can fight back at the cretins and their stupid laws. A pox on them and their houses!

We must know where and for what crimes we can be "scarlet lettered" for.

In this boy's fate, I assume it will not ruin him for life. I cannot say the same for the bullies or the adults on his mom's side of the family. He should get his lawyer next court date to insert in his record that the charges must be sealed upon majority or accused will take legal remedies". Living a clean record and not seeing the mother again, along with counselling will prove to those bozos in Tacoma that their law structure is just plain wrong.

BTW the charge was nothing like murder one or rape for crying out loud! The little girl is still alive. In bad shape, but alive. (Washington does have such laws for sealing of records.) Since the boy is only nine, chances are he will not commit anything else of this serious caliber again, as long as he is not abused or around his drug addled mom ever again. He has not prior arrests as far as I know. Statistics prove that the majority of kids charged with this type of crime go on not commit any more if they are not maltreated by the system or their family.

The girl's family better sue the bullies' families and the mom and boyfriend, not the boy. He is no little criminal in the making. Just because he is no Senator's son does not make him any different.

[Bryan]

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In addition, the boy if repeatedly denied things due to this conviction as a juvenile can seal his record if he or his uncle are not lazy about it when it comes time. He plea bargined it down. He was only nine years old and a third grader for crying out loud. In fact if it is an egregious discrimination, he should hook up with a lawyer in the future and fight it to the bitter end. He must encounter any good organization out their that help a person like himself help him out. Get him through college, get him an employer who would not care about this accidental discharge. You might think this is a reflez action. It is not. an ex-juvy has a mouth does he? They have the support from powerful people who can ram reform down the throats of the government.

Background checks outside banking and government jobs (with exceptions) is a real bad idea. It is a litigation magnet. It is a violation to a person's right to privacy. It is in fact unAmerican and unfair. If it is not stopped and enough people are mad, I should expect in the next decade a crusade of banned people raising up against their government at any level. Most likely it should start at the local level. If enough local employers end the practice, it will cascade up the levels. Then background checks will be the height of folly and those that still do will have to carve out concessions to those that say said violations will not effect their work for them. Screening would then become against the law. No need for legislation if eventual court can create the legislation that our politicians cannot and will not create or modify.

In short, do not worry about that gun thing, kid. The laws will change within your lifetime. And for the better as the groundswell of the discriminated become more vocal against these unjust rules and laws.

[gloria]

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Boy Who Took Gun To School In Washington Has Charge Dropped

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/22/boy-who-took-gun-to-school_n_2740748.html?utm_hp_ref=crime

A judge in Washington state has dismissed a reckless endangerment charge against a young boy who brought to school a gun that discharged and critically wounded a classmate a year ago, in a case that drew widespread attention.